Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Postby bsgman » August 12th, 2014, 6:30 pm

It looks like Sportsman's Warehouse has the Mountaineer .50 for $120 less than Knightrifles.com but it APPEARS to only come in FPJ.

I understand the FPJ will cause more mess with regards to blowback but that it essentially turns the gun into 100% waterproof.

I also saw some comments that the Mountaineer is meant to shoot 209 bare and NOT the FPJ, but that it is still offered as a preference.

Can someone help me decide--is FPJ a bad idea for the Mountaineer? Why would 209 Bare be the preference?

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Re: Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Postby a1smokepole » August 12th, 2014, 6:53 pm

What powder will you be shooting.
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Re: Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Postby bsgman » August 12th, 2014, 7:29 pm

Either BH209 or 777. Or whatever you experts recommend is the best combo.
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Re: Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Postby bsgman » August 12th, 2014, 7:31 pm

I should add this is in Colorado so I will be using full size bore bullets without sabot.
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Re: Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Postby a1smokepole » August 12th, 2014, 10:01 pm

With T7 you will be fine just us a mild primer like W209 or less. if your going to use BH209 you will need the bare primer setup it works better for this powder. and keep your breech plug clean with a drill bit by hand not a drill.
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Re: Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Postby bsgman » August 13th, 2014, 10:03 am

That is good to know, but I'm still confused as to whether BH209+Bare 209 Primer vs. FPJ+777 would be a better choice?

Sacrificing waterproofing for what--a cleaner gun? Is there any accuracy or reliability concern with regards to hunting?

Is it worth $120 to get the Bare 209 version?

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Re: Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Postby sabotloader » August 13th, 2014, 11:40 am

bsgman wrote:That is good to know, but I'm still confused as to whether BH209+Bare 209 Primer vs. FPJ+777 would be a better choice?

Sacrificing waterproofing for what--a cleaner gun? Is there any accuracy or reliability concern with regards to hunting?

Is it worth $120 to get the Bare 209 version?

Brian


It would be my suggestion that you shoot a NFPJ with BH as the first choice. It probably would not be first choice because of the price of BH. I still shoot T7 and have really no problems with it.

Waterproofing - with a w209 primer and if you get a slight primer crush when you close the bolt - it is nearly water proof if it is not totally water proof.

The NFPJ is cleaner but it also more efficient in that the gas is directed directly down the breech plug. The NFPJ also provides that all the pressure is used pushing the projectile up the bore - no blow back or so little it is not worth talking about.

The $120... that is something I guess you have to decide...

Might check Sportsmans Guide... http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/ ... ?a=1330419
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Re: Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Postby bsgman » August 13th, 2014, 11:51 am

Thanks sabotloader. Everything I keep seeing seems like BH209/NFPJ is the way to go for cleanliness and accuracy.

That is a great deal on a .52. I just can't seem to justify it with the lack of .52 full bore bullets (Colorado hunter). But seems like a better shooter, especially out beyond 150 yards.
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Re: Mountaineer - 209 Bare vs FPJ

Postby sabotloader » August 13th, 2014, 4:10 pm

bsgman wrote:Thanks sabotloader. Everything I keep seeing seems like BH209/NFPJ is the way to go for cleanliness and accuracy.

That is a great deal on a .52. I just can't seem to justify it with the lack of .52 full bore bullets (Colorado hunter). But seems like a better shooter, especially out beyond 150 yards.


Did you look at the other Mountaineers offered...

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productl ... ountaineer
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