Knight Muzzleloader Forum

[WA Hunter]

I tried calling Knight numerous times today, but they don't seem to answer the phone so I thought I would sign up and ask here before I change my mind.
I am considering buying one of the new Wolverines (here http://www.knightrifles.com/wolverine-straight/) but have a couple of questions.
What is "Full Plastic Jacket" ignition?
Can this Wolverine use musket caps?
Would it need a new breech plug/nipple?
Would this be considered "exposed" for legal use in Washington?

A couple of weeks ago I shot an older Wolverine using musket caps and I really liked it, but I am not sure what might have changed with the newer Wolverines.

[sabotloader]

I tried calling Knight numerous times today, but they don't seem to answer the phone so I thought I would sign up and ask here before I change my mind.

Try calling them between 10 and 2 their time (Tennessee)

I am considering buying one of the new Wolverines (here http://www.knightrifles.com/wolverine-straight/) but have a couple of questions.
What is "Full Plastic Jacket" ignition?

A Red Plastic Jacket is a device or carrier to insert a shot gun 209 primer into. Then that is placed on a post on the breech plug. The hammer is relaesed and hits the primer causing the gun to ignite. Not legal in Washington...

Can this Wolverine use musket caps?

It can... I would suggest you order it that way - but I would go with #11 caps they are more reliable and can be near water proof with the correct nipple.

Would it need a new breech plug/nipple?

yes

Would this be considered "exposed" for legal use in Washington?

it is an exposed cap system

A couple of weeks ago I shot an older Wolverine using musket caps and I really liked it, but I am not sure what might have changed with the newer Wolverines.

A Wolverine can be a Washington legal ML, but when you order it order it with cap igniton....

I would suggest a Knight DISC Extreme with a Western Kit installed - it is a much more versitile gun and meets all the Pacific Northwest rules...

Knight DISC Extreme



Open exposed breech - the cap is visable



Check these threads out...

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index ... 110.0.html

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index ... 110.0.html

[WA Hunter]

Thanks for the response.
I called between 7 am and 3pm Pacific time and it either rang forever or went straight to a recording.

I have read those huntwa threads before. Great info, but I can't justify the cost of the Disc Extreme. I don't plan on ML hunting for more than a season or two and the Wolverine is actually a step up in price from my first choice. Basically I am getting one to hunt with a buddy a few times.

So what makes the #11 more more waterproof than the musket caps?
Which nipple would you suggest with the #11?
I didn't see a #11 ignition version online. Is there a place to look?

[sabotloader]

Thanks for the response.
I called between 7 am and 3pm Pacific time and it either rang forever or went straight to a recording.

I have read those huntwa threads before. Great info, but I can't justify the cost of the Disc Extreme. I don't plan on ML hunting for more than a season or two and the Wolverine is actually a step up in price from my first choice. Basically I am getting one to hunt with a buddy a few times.

Not a problem... the Wolverine is a very good gun!

So what makes the #11 more more waterproof than the musket caps?

When you use a capper to put the nipple on the post you actually cause it to form fit the post of the nipple if you have the correct size nipple..

I think it is explained in this thread...

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index ... 546.0.html

Which nipple would you suggest with the #11?

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index ... 931.0.html

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index ... 394.0.html

I didn't see a #11 ignition version online. Is there a place to look?

You are right they are only offering it in a Plastic Jacket version...

But you can order the cap ignition in the general parts area. You would need a cap breech plug for a 50 cal Big Horn and get the nipples form TOW.

http://www.knightrifles.com/breech-plug-M900023/

Or if you can get to Knight by phone to order the gun just tell them you want the Western Kit version of the gun...

[WA Hunter]

Thanks again.
I read the 11 vs mc thread the other day.
I forgot about the capper thread and somehow missed the nipple thread. That had some good info and made sense.

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[Gunny85]

When you order a western version of a rifle from Knight Rifles it comes with the breech plug and a musket cap nipple already installed and a #11 cap is in the accessory kit which is also included to.

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